GPR Exhaust for 200 4T.

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GPR Exhaust for 200 4T.

Postby tipper » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:06 am

For those of you not on the facebook page here is the review I wrote for the GPR exhaust for the 200 4t as well as a video of how the exhaust sounds.

GPR Exhaust for LML 200 4T Review.

Introduction

I had wanted a GPR exhaust for my LML since I saw the pipe the Italian company released for the 125/150cc version of the LML 4 stroke scooter a few years back. The quality looked superb,the sound (from what I could make out from a video) was spot on,you could still carry and spare tyre and it had a dyno graph to back up the claimed extra horse power. It could be the perfect exhaust !

I had tried a couple of other aftermarket exhausts but they were a little too loud for my liking so I emailed GPR to ask them if they had any plans to develop an exhaust for the 200cc LML. They told me that they would love to if I could find them a scooter to work on when designing the exhaust. I considered riding to Italy to let them use my scooter but it's a 2000 mile round trip from my home in Somerset England so I waited to see if anyone else stepped up to the plate. Eventually I saw a video on the Italian LML owners club facebook of a LML 200 with a GPR exhaust fitted and emailed GPR straight away to see how I could get hold of one.

I received a reply straight away and so the story begins -

Communication

In my opinion how a company deals with it’s customers is just as important as the products they sell. Both Arthur at GPR UK and Mauro at GPR Italy responded to my emails quickly and I even managed to wrangle a discount for LML Owners Club UK members if I could secure 10 orders ( think we have ordered around 15 exhausts now in total). Tracking numbers were sent as soon as the exhausts left Italy and the whole ordering experience was top notch. The only issue I had was some of the hardware was missing from my package. I emailed GPR and it was sent out via DHL the next day. Also the bolt that goes through the swing arm that came with the exhaust was too short,I am not sure how this happened but I was not the only one to have this problem. GPR did offer to send out replacement bolts but most members opted for sourcing their own 65mm m10 bolts instead. I slight hiccup but rectified quickly.

Quality

The exhaust comes well packaged. The box contains a two branded cloth bags with the various parts in,separated to stop them banging against each other in transit. The smaller parts (nuts bolts etc) are also in a sealed bag along with a couple of GPR stickers. The down pipe as well as all the fixings are stainless steel and the box section is aluminium,the whole system weighs 3kg less than the standard pipe.There is also a removable db killer for those people who like to bother their neighbours.

The Tig welds are clean and solid and the exhaust comes with a certificate to show that it meets european standards. It comes in a cat and not cat version but not surprisingly nobody from the club ordered one with a cat fitted.







Fitting

Anyone who has fitted a mass produced aftermarket scooter exhaust before will know that they don't always fit without a bit of gentle persuasion from a rubber mallet. Luckily fitting the GPR was fairly straight forward. The instructions that come with the exhaust are pretty basic but there is a video on youtube which shows you step by step how to fit the exhaust. The instructions say the exhaust doesn't need a crush washer in the exhaust manifold but I left mine in place to give a better seal. Other members fitted their exhausts without a washer and haven't had any problems.

I found that using a cable tie to hold the hanger that goes round the box section tight while I torqued up the bolt made things easier. The fact that everything is so precise and well made meant that fitting the exhaust was relatively easy compared to others I have fitted in the past,both 2 stroke and 4 stroke,no rubber mallet was needed.

The pipe fits with enough of a gap between it and the scooter’s frame to ease any worries about heat transfer and the stubby end can means there is still enough room to carry a spare wheel although it did seem that some of the owner's exhausts were closer to the spare than others.

I did feel a slight leak between the downpipe and the box section but this was cured by repositioning and re-tightening the clamp slightly. My scooter was jetted with a 94 main jet which seems to work well,more on this later.



Sound

After fitting the exhaust my scooter fired up straight away. The exhaust has a nice deep rumble when idling without being offensively loud. When rolling up to traffic lights with the clutch pulled in the pipe is barely louder than a standard one but has a much nicer tone. Out on the open road the exhaust purrs along nicely,loud enough so that the traffic around you can hear you coming but not so loud that it drives you mad on a long journey. The more I ride with this exhaust the more I fall in love with the sound of it,they have got the balance just right.

You can hear what the exhaust sounds like here - https://youtu.be/ZV89tk0wXDM


Performance

This is always hard to judge using the ‘bum dyno’ sometimes the sound of an exhaust can make you feel like you are going faster,other times the fact that you have just forked out a load of money can convince you that there is an improvement.Just bolting on an exhaust to a 4 stroke scooter is never going to make a huge difference in performance.
However, myself and other members of the club certainly noticed an improvement in acceleration with possibly a couple of mph top speed. The proof of the pudding is in the eating and after getting the jetting setup to suit the exhaust on a dyno I ended up with an 80 main jet. The exhaust definitely allows you to rev higher in 3rd gear. I can now rev up to 60mph on the speedo before changing up to 4th where as before I would have to shift up around 40mph. My top speed has also increased,I now regularly reach 70mph on the speedo which is around 65 mph on the speedo an improvement of just under 10 mph !

The most noticeable difference is how smooth the scooter seems to run with the GPR. I don't know how or why this is but I like it. The other exhausts I had fitted to my 4 stroke in the past didn't give the same feeling of totally loosening up the engine.

Conclusion

The GPR costs £229.00 for the non cat version which means it isn't the cheapest exhaust on the market but it also isn't the most expensive. It is however,in my opinion the best quality pipe available at the moment and each one comes with a 2 year warranty to back that up. The exhaust fits pretty much perfectly,the sound is awesome and there is definitely a noticeable performance improvement. The only negative I can think of is that there were some bits missing from my package but as I mentioned before this was quickly put right.

If you are looking for an aftermarket exhaust for your LML 125,150,151 or 200 4 stroke then I definitely recommend the GPR.

I will end this review with the words of Rich Bennett another member of the LML Owners Club of Great Britain UK - “

'Well just around 300 miles since fitting and got to say it's the best exhaust I've had. Good performance increase. Great mid range response and acceleration. Lovely tone. Best of all the 200 feels so much smoother through the gear range and there's also a little increase in fuel range. It's the dogs b*llocks.’

Matt Tipper.

Thank you to Howard Jones for the photos.


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Re: GPR Exhaust for 200 4T.

Postby Harps18TV » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:49 am

Hi Tipper - I got an email this morning from SLUK & one of the things covered was the GPR exhaust with your excellent review of it. It looks & sounds great & I have been vaguely looking as my Gianelli is now very rusty & I was surprised that the new ones were not painted, so the GPR looks favorite now.
Anyway, that was a really good & helpful review, so thanks for taking the trouble to cover it so well. :D

June & a quick update.
I put my money where my mouth was several weeks back & invested in a GPR exhaust.
In general I`m pleased with it, but the fit is not great. Fitting it to the bike (200 4T) as the video on U tube shows, the body of the exhaust was hard up under the footboard stiffener. The only way I was able to get it on the bike & have about 3mm clearance was to leave out the spacer that is provided & put more of a bend in the hanger that is also provided with the exhaust. An easy job, but shouldn`t really be necessary.
Arthur was not able to help as he said he hadn`t fitted one & suggested that I had a word with Matt, who had a few suggestions but couldn`t really do more than that (thanks again for your trouble Matt). I eventually emailed some photos to the Italian manufacturer for their suggestions & to make sure that I had been supplied with the correct down pipe (I thought that the trouble I was having may have been down to having been supplied with an incorrect/short down pipe) . Their "Customer Care Manager" replied after a couple of weeks to say that the down pipe was correct & I hadn`t fitted their spacer as shown on the U tube video, hence my problem. Great, some customer care!!!
So, yes great exhaust, & I`m pleased with it overall, but if you get one, you may have to play around a bit to get it to miss the underside of your bike, unless I have a bike that`s different to all the rest, in which case you may be lucky & get one that fits as easily as the video makes out! :roll:
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Re: GPR Exhaust for 200 4T.

Postby Stax » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:09 pm

Hi Tipper
Read your review of the GPR Exhaust for 200 4T, and want one, but having trouble locating a stockist in the UK ,Please advise.
Also having problems locating spares for the 200, specifically the 90 bend throttle cable tube and wonder if this is common to the 125,150 cc 4 strokes.The side panel lip was catching on this tube almost severing it and causing the inner cable to jam.Interesting 60 mile ride home with jammed open throttle !!!
Hope you can point me in the right direction.
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